Does your bike really only do 5L per 100KM?
My Honda Jazz Car does 6.8L,
has no deafening exhaust as I overtake other vehicles and pass pedestrians – some with little children with vulnerable hearing,
keeps me dry,
carries 4 people not just 2,
I just get in it and drive (no getting dressed for 10 minutes,
and best of all
if I crash I don’t automatically meet the ground and cost the country via ACC.
I’d sell your bike and get a car if I were you!
and if its the wind blowing that you love get an open top car!
All the best buddy
Linda
Hey Linda. Sadly I have precious little hair for air to flow through, and my exhaust note is far too muted. Good on you for enjoying your Jazz, they got it right with that model. Cheers MOD
Hi MOD and Linda, I found your comments interesting Linda, but my guess is you’ve never been infected with the 2 wheel ‘bug’. I was hooked as a ten yr old, being pillion to my older brother on a superbike for the ride to school! I have had only 2 crashes in my 50yrs on bikes, one a cars drivers fault, and the second as a result of debris on the road, (another 4 wheeler cause?), at walking speed. It seems a bit OTT but that one cost me 5 leg breaks and 4 1/2 months of nil income. Note:ACC only covered my medical expenses, then washed their hands of ongoing issues as ‘degenerative’! The uninjured ankle has NO problems, however.
As MOD has pointed out, it’s really difficult to ride 2 motorcycles at once, (I run two 600cc plus bikes) and paying skyhigh ACC levies to fund the rehab of idiots is highly frustrating. Indemnify the rider, basing premiums on their skills, and experience , seems a far better option to me. Sports injuries are another issue, don’t get me started!!
I too love bikes but kids and life in general have squeezed that out for a while. Can any one tell me why the ACC levy on my diesel MPV is more that the total rego cost on a petrol car? Do diesel owners have more prangs or am I being lumped in with the big 4X4 SUV’s which do seem to have their fair share. Nobody I ask seems to be able to give me a reasonable answer!
I got the biking bug from my brother when he gave me one of his old bikes about 4 years ago.
I then sold my V8 Mercedes and bought a 400CC road bike as soon as I got my full license.
I have a wife and 2 kids, I ride carefully doing all I can to be seen and have traveled to work every day for the last 4 years without incident.
I have saved up to get a new helmet instead of the hand me down from my bro, I now almost enough to get a new jacket.
I have recently bought an old smokey diesel van because bike can’t carry things so now I am already paying $372.32 for the van, my bike which is costing currently $321.24, my wife also needs a car for the family as we can’t all fit on the bike so there is another $247.86 which equates to not much below $1000 already, I have only had one non injury accident in my life so I feel we subsidise my bike reasonably well.
If I have to pay double rego for my bike, it will be at the expense of my safety gear.
The govt has clearly got this wrong. They do need to make up for their huge shortfall somehow, but its too much of an increase.
However, NZ motorists have had it easy for so long. Compare the registration costs to those in Australia. They don’t have ACC, but do have compulsory 3rd party insurance (similar thing) and an emergency services levy plus stamp duty on sales of vehicles.
Costs vary by state, but doing a quick comparison on the Transport SA web site, a 600cc bike will cost about $400 a year, $33 is the registration cost the rest is insurance, tax, levy and fees.
A 4cyl sedan (no matter the value) will cost $648 a year, $99 of that is the registration. A V8? insurance is the same (odd) but registration is $248 so total annual “registration” cost is $841.
Yes they should increase the insurance cost, but a huge rise in one go is just a knee-jerk reaction to their debt with little forethought. We can hope they will compromise.
Reading the poster’s comments before me, where he suggests the rider should be the focus give me a “lateral thinking” idea. Many cars/bikes are driven by more than one person at different times. The operators skill and attitude is the biggest determining safety factor of the journey. Perhaps registration costs should be lower, but licencing of the driver should be higher and tested more often? Discounts given for certified advanced training perhaps?
It would be a major overhaul and I’m sure the grey groups would object as their costs would go up as a risk group but be less able to afford it.
Hey Damian. I think this concept has a lot of merit, and looking at the Trade Me poll it appears so do a lot of others. Effectively a no claims bonus for those with safe records.
I object to paying for the excesses of incompetent civil servants who will do things the most expensive way given any sort of choice. Further, having worked inside ACC I can attest to the FACT that the organisation is heavy with over paid, under worked fools that are only interested in keeping their fat salaries. How about we fire most of the senior management and get some people in there who want to provide for the people of NZ and NOT themselves.
Fello’s, totally agree with the rider skill base. I currently ride a single 650, barely raising 40 h/p if Ive had a curry. I have been riding for 25 years, and had one accident where a vehicle was desperate to have a GSXR1100 in the drivers door, no injuries to speak of. I am disgruntled I am in the top bracket along with bikes and riders which pose a far higher risk. I would be interested to know stats on the style of bikes having the accidents, from a bad past and some stupidity I am guessing the hyper sports machines are more prone by far than dual sports or tourers, maybe thats where they should be focusing? (sitting waiting for some abuse….) Deano
Paul,
The reason you pay the higher ACC levy on your diesel MPV is that neither diesel or RUC have any ACC content whatsoever, unlike petrol which currently has 9.9c (+GST)/litre included in the pump price. The other fact that you and many other motorists seem unaware of is that the same ACC levy rise proposal that hits motorcyclists also includes levy increases of over $100 for both diesel and petrol cars, and almost $300 increase in ACC levy for “non-petrol goods service vehicles”. What is your MPV registered as?
Levy increases of a further 3c (+GST) per litre on petrol is also proposed but still no ACC on diesel in sight. And don’t believe the BS about ACC being broke; this is all about fattening ACC up for privatisation.
So the ACC levy campaign being waged by motorcyclists is on behalf of all New Zealand motorists. It’s just that we’re the more observant ones when it comes to a potential shafting by ACC and the present government, and in terms of protests we’ve only just started on this issue.
Tony
Thanks Tony, I am now enlightened, although no happier about having to pay so much for my rego! It makes owning and running a diesel much less economical although the modern ones are much more fuel efficient so I guess it pans out in the end. Cheers.
Does your bike really only do 5L per 100KM?
My Honda Jazz Car does 6.8L,
has no deafening exhaust as I overtake other vehicles and pass pedestrians – some with little children with vulnerable hearing,
keeps me dry,
carries 4 people not just 2,
I just get in it and drive (no getting dressed for 10 minutes,
and best of all
if I crash I don’t automatically meet the ground and cost the country via ACC.
I’d sell your bike and get a car if I were you!
and if its the wind blowing that you love get an open top car!
All the best buddy
Linda
Hey Linda. Sadly I have precious little hair for air to flow through, and my exhaust note is far too muted. Good on you for enjoying your Jazz, they got it right with that model. Cheers MOD
Hi MOD and Linda, I found your comments interesting Linda, but my guess is you’ve never been infected with the 2 wheel ‘bug’. I was hooked as a ten yr old, being pillion to my older brother on a superbike for the ride to school! I have had only 2 crashes in my 50yrs on bikes, one a cars drivers fault, and the second as a result of debris on the road, (another 4 wheeler cause?), at walking speed. It seems a bit OTT but that one cost me 5 leg breaks and 4 1/2 months of nil income. Note:ACC only covered my medical expenses, then washed their hands of ongoing issues as ‘degenerative’! The uninjured ankle has NO problems, however.
As MOD has pointed out, it’s really difficult to ride 2 motorcycles at once, (I run two 600cc plus bikes) and paying skyhigh ACC levies to fund the rehab of idiots is highly frustrating. Indemnify the rider, basing premiums on their skills, and experience , seems a far better option to me. Sports injuries are another issue, don’t get me started!!
I too love bikes but kids and life in general have squeezed that out for a while. Can any one tell me why the ACC levy on my diesel MPV is more that the total rego cost on a petrol car? Do diesel owners have more prangs or am I being lumped in with the big 4X4 SUV’s which do seem to have their fair share. Nobody I ask seems to be able to give me a reasonable answer!
I got the biking bug from my brother when he gave me one of his old bikes about 4 years ago.
I then sold my V8 Mercedes and bought a 400CC road bike as soon as I got my full license.
I have a wife and 2 kids, I ride carefully doing all I can to be seen and have traveled to work every day for the last 4 years without incident.
I have saved up to get a new helmet instead of the hand me down from my bro, I now almost enough to get a new jacket.
I have recently bought an old smokey diesel van because bike can’t carry things so now I am already paying $372.32 for the van, my bike which is costing currently $321.24, my wife also needs a car for the family as we can’t all fit on the bike so there is another $247.86 which equates to not much below $1000 already, I have only had one non injury accident in my life so I feel we subsidise my bike reasonably well.
If I have to pay double rego for my bike, it will be at the expense of my safety gear.
The govt has clearly got this wrong. They do need to make up for their huge shortfall somehow, but its too much of an increase.
However, NZ motorists have had it easy for so long. Compare the registration costs to those in Australia. They don’t have ACC, but do have compulsory 3rd party insurance (similar thing) and an emergency services levy plus stamp duty on sales of vehicles.
Costs vary by state, but doing a quick comparison on the Transport SA web site, a 600cc bike will cost about $400 a year, $33 is the registration cost the rest is insurance, tax, levy and fees.
A 4cyl sedan (no matter the value) will cost $648 a year, $99 of that is the registration. A V8? insurance is the same (odd) but registration is $248 so total annual “registration” cost is $841.
Yes they should increase the insurance cost, but a huge rise in one go is just a knee-jerk reaction to their debt with little forethought. We can hope they will compromise.
Reading the poster’s comments before me, where he suggests the rider should be the focus give me a “lateral thinking” idea. Many cars/bikes are driven by more than one person at different times. The operators skill and attitude is the biggest determining safety factor of the journey. Perhaps registration costs should be lower, but licencing of the driver should be higher and tested more often? Discounts given for certified advanced training perhaps?
It would be a major overhaul and I’m sure the grey groups would object as their costs would go up as a risk group but be less able to afford it.
Hey Damian. I think this concept has a lot of merit, and looking at the Trade Me poll it appears so do a lot of others. Effectively a no claims bonus for those with safe records.
I object to paying for the excesses of incompetent civil servants who will do things the most expensive way given any sort of choice. Further, having worked inside ACC I can attest to the FACT that the organisation is heavy with over paid, under worked fools that are only interested in keeping their fat salaries. How about we fire most of the senior management and get some people in there who want to provide for the people of NZ and NOT themselves.
Fello’s, totally agree with the rider skill base. I currently ride a single 650, barely raising 40 h/p if Ive had a curry. I have been riding for 25 years, and had one accident where a vehicle was desperate to have a GSXR1100 in the drivers door, no injuries to speak of. I am disgruntled I am in the top bracket along with bikes and riders which pose a far higher risk. I would be interested to know stats on the style of bikes having the accidents, from a bad past and some stupidity I am guessing the hyper sports machines are more prone by far than dual sports or tourers, maybe thats where they should be focusing? (sitting waiting for some abuse….) Deano
Paul,
The reason you pay the higher ACC levy on your diesel MPV is that neither diesel or RUC have any ACC content whatsoever, unlike petrol which currently has 9.9c (+GST)/litre included in the pump price. The other fact that you and many other motorists seem unaware of is that the same ACC levy rise proposal that hits motorcyclists also includes levy increases of over $100 for both diesel and petrol cars, and almost $300 increase in ACC levy for “non-petrol goods service vehicles”. What is your MPV registered as?
Levy increases of a further 3c (+GST) per litre on petrol is also proposed but still no ACC on diesel in sight. And don’t believe the BS about ACC being broke; this is all about fattening ACC up for privatisation.
So the ACC levy campaign being waged by motorcyclists is on behalf of all New Zealand motorists. It’s just that we’re the more observant ones when it comes to a potential shafting by ACC and the present government, and in terms of protests we’ve only just started on this issue.
Tony
Thanks Tony, I am now enlightened, although no happier about having to pay so much for my rego! It makes owning and running a diesel much less economical although the modern ones are much more fuel efficient so I guess it pans out in the end. Cheers.